Charging and range experience on a vacation road trip

[Cosmyc]

So just finished my 2 week vacation road trip with my Ariya for the first time, with hypermiling and fast charging.

I've to say, it has surpassed my expectations, so much that usually my body gets tired asking for a brief break before the car needs a fast charge.

This Ariya cruising 58mph is a resistance champion, because the powertrain is so efficient in combination with the sweet aerodynamic speed of 56-58mph made my consumption at warm temps so good that I was doing consistently between 310 miles and 380 miles, with an average around 345 miles per charge.

And then there's the charging speed, I've seen my Ariya charge at 131kW peak speed for a good amount of time even, and noticed the behavior of the second charge curve that kicks in when you're doing more than one fast charge per day, the famous "90kW wave".

The first charging curve is ideal for a quick daily top up, especially if it's partial, because the 90kW charge curve for multiple quick charges a day is as fast when charging up to ~85% SoC or so, so that's not a disadvantage and it's a way for Nissan to be easier on the battery on heavy duty days with a lot of fast charge. Cooling assist kicked in sometimes to cool the battery pack around the final part of some quick charging and remained working for about 20 to 50 minutes after the quick charging session ended, giving me the feeling that active cooling is needed in some scenarios but not all of them, there were quick charges that it didn't kick in at all, monitored battery temperature through the diagnostic port during those too.

My Ariya did all quick charges on Tesla Supercharger network

My typical cruising speed

Computer data with my usual average speed and consumption, each driving session was long, more than 5 hours...

Peak charging speed seen at 131kW sustained from 35% to 45% most of the times

Example of one of the many quick charging sessions

This car is a long mile warrior for sure, as long as you're not cruising at 80mph, aerodynamics kill the range.

Feel free to ask anything about my experience.

[gbjornson@gmail.com]

Where can I get an adapter to use Tesla chargers in Vermont?

[NISSANFAN]

This is uk / Europe Aryia forum . There is an equivalent USA forum who will answer your question

[ashleycarr]

Your numbers are staggering. I haven't seen anything like that. Take your 13.3 kWh/100Km, that equates to over 7.5 miles per kWh! 109 km left at 17% suggests a range of 398 miles. The second screen shot showing 14.1/100kWh is 382. Even with ideal temperatures that is remarkable. My best peak, also at Tesla, was 128 but that happened at very low SOC <5%. Your average speed during the Tesla charge was 101. A recent charge, with battery heating and an ambient temperature circa 10c, going from 13% to 77% was 98.6, the only metric I come close to your experience.

You have a really good one. Way over what even Nissan claim it is capable of. Lucky you.

[Milkfloat]

But, don't forget Cosmyc's fortitude. Driving at a true 57mph across the endless Spanish motorways takes some doing. I traverse the Spanish plains each year and 120kph cruising feels laggardly.

[karltk1]

I am lucky if I get 3.5 m/Pkwh, even on 60 mph roads I might squeeze 3.8 at a push if I am lucky and 25c.

[NISSANFAN]

Took this pic near Alicante airport in Spain ……wonder what his range & charging experience is like overnight charge while you sleep

[Cosmyc]

Your numbers are staggering. I haven't seen anything like that. Take your 13.3 kWh/100Km, that equates to over 7.5 miles per kWh! 109 km left at 17% suggests a range of 398 miles. The second screen shot showing 14.1/100kWh is 382. Even with ideal temperatures that is remarkable. My best peak, also at Tesla, was 128 but that happened at very low SOC <5%. Your average speed during the Tesla charge was 101. A recent charge, with battery heating and an ambient temperature circa 10c, going from 13% to 77% was 98.6, the only metric I come close to your experience.

You have a really good one. Way over what even Nissan claim it is capable of. Lucky you.

What if I told you that if I were able to drive your Ariya the same way I did with mine it wouldn't be THAT different?

As Milkfloat says, eemember that I drove efficiently like a big truck, like really behaving like one more on the road.

[Ian Thompson]

Having done 16 k miles now mainly motorway my conclusion is that it’s ALL TO DO WITH SPEED. Tuck in the Left lane joining the HGVs doing 56-60 mph and the range is excellent (3.7 m/kWh) will get you 300 miles even more if you take it down to the limit. Middle lane “normal” speed set on 70 mph takes it down to 3.0 m/kWh gives you 250 miles. Third lane clear road night driving at 80 mph and you are down to 2.6 m/kWh, about 220 miles. Love the car but the blunt nose & high aspect gives massive wind resistance. Oh below 10C and raining (ie normal uk motorway winter driving take 15% off all the above numbers).
If I’m heading home then I never adjust my driving keeping it pretty quick since it is cheap to put a few more kWh in the car overnight.

On a long trip like a vacation why not slow down put the music on, enjoy the car & save money on the superchargers, driving in chill out mode is the lorry lane is less stressful and the Ariya lane assist and adaptive cruise means it’s so easy. Drove that way last weekend in terrible weather (cold, gale force winds, constant heavy rain) did 240 miles without charging - we felt safe and could chat and passenger catch up on her social media and online buying!

[Cosmyc]

Having done 16 k miles now mainly motorway my conclusion is that it’s ALL TO DO WITH SPEED. Tuck in the Left lane joining the HGVs doing 56-60 mph and the range is excellent (3.7 m/kWh) will get you 300 miles even more if you take it down to the limit. Middle lane “normal” speed set on 70 mph takes it down to 3.0 m/kWh gives you 250 miles. Third lane clear road night driving at 80 mph and you are down to 2.6 m/kWh, about 220 miles. Love the car but the blunt nose & high aspect gives massive wind resistance. Oh below 10C and raining (ie normal uk motorway winter driving take 15% off all the above numbers).
If I’m heading home then I never adjust my driving keeping it pretty quick since it is cheap to put a few more kWh in the car overnight.

On a long trip like a vacation why not slow down put the music on, enjoy the car & save money on the superchargers, driving in chill out mode is the lorry lane is less stressful and the Ariya lane assist and adaptive cruise means it’s so easy. Drove that way last weekend in terrible weather (cold, gale force winds, constant heavy rain) did 240 miles without charging - we felt safe and could chat and passenger catch up on her social media and online buying!

Glad you understood, that's how I did my trip on mainland Spain, less quick charges and cheaper.